Problems and breakdowns of the Bork bread machine

I think that it makes sense to move all the jambs on BORK into a separate branch.
I decided to give myself a bread maker with money donated by my parents for my birthday in order to delight my own with delicious and aromatic homemade bread. And after all, I went to buy specifically Panasonic, "having read" a lot of positive things about it on the Internet.
She spread it ... The seller just threw it up in the M-video, confidentially informing that she also had Panas at home for 3 years, and everything would be fine, but ... But the plastic lining turned yellow, the outdated buttons, they say (!) that the lid breaks, but it cannot be found, that an additional spatula is required for rye bread, that there is only one form and, most importantly, it has a "plastic-metal" drive! This struck me. But next to him, they say, what a handsome man in metal, with sensors, a beautiful display, two shapes, a German mark, etc. And most importantly, if something goes wrong, then you can easily change it, or return it within two weeks.
And I bought a BORK X500 (as I later found out, he's Gorenye 900AL, he's something else ...).
There was no bread. None at all. Neither on the main mode, nor on baking. But that's not all. Smell. This nasty smell when baking! Some kind of medical and technical. And the bread smells like that. And absolutely inedible. Only the dog was not averse. Neither the device nor the manual contains any information about the manufacturer. Only BORK and "Made in China". The lid heats up to an indecent temperature - after baking, do not open it by hand, only with an oven mitt. In general - ATAS.
Climbed into the network (only late), and there everything is crammed with warnings, such as "Caution - Bork". I read about the pseudo-German origin, and about all the ordeals and torments of people like me. Well, for example, the same Gorenye costs about 5 thousand, and its twin under the BORK brand - almost 9. The secret of success, as they write on the Internet, is high commissions to selling managers throughout the country (from 1000 rubles per unit sold), aggressive and well-thought-out advertising and stylization for luxury equipment.
He dragged me to the store, wrote about the smell, about the disgusting quality of the bread. I thought that they would immediately return the money, or replace it with Panas. Shchass! .. They said that they would bake and check. Shit some. Like, they will say that it doesn’t smell and that it’s delicious, but I’ll argue that it smells and you shouldn’t eat? I called the information service of the trading network, they say that they have a "check" up to 20 days. I got it.
I am a stubborn person, especially if I am offended. And I was specifically offended. Not only did they sell shitty quality goods, under the guise and at the price of an airplane, but then also the sales assistant (who sits on commission from BORK) shamelessly lied in the eyes (when the next day I tried to return this "bread maker"), that did not promise the possibility of a smooth replacement, or a return within 2 weeks. I will publish her name later. Necessarily, out of principle.
But okay, closer to the topic ... For several years, I myself have been working in the kitchen with an electric kettle (I bought it myself for the kitchen) and a toaster (presented) BORK. We worked for ourselves, worked, without complaints. And what are the complaints? To make a teapot really bad, for example, today can only be a moron: a boiler - it is a boiler. Now only the lazy does not let them out. It's the same with a toaster - a heating coil with a timer. Only they cost, of course, crazy, in comparison with analogues, money. Well, okay, "show-offs are more expensive", as they say - all the same, "premium class" equipment. However, not all so simple...
Having rummaged on the Web, I discovered the following: the ill-fated BORK X500 bread maker (aka BM500) has counterparts produced all over the world.BORK X500, aka DOMO B3975, aka Gorenje BL500, aka UNOLD 68415, aka BREVILLE BBM600. "Zhora, he's Gosha, he's Goga ...". Only there are all the doubles, in terms of rubles, in the range of 3500 - 4000. Maximum! And BORK - 9000 rubles. Great, isn't it? This, I'm sure, is not yet a complete list ...
Maybe it's just such an outstanding bread maker that all manufacturers "tear it out of hand"?
With a toaster, the same "parsley". Toaster BORK T700 (TM EBN 9910 BK), aka BREVILLE CT70, aka GASTROBACK 42404, etc.
It's the same with juicers.
It's the same with steamers.
It's the same with grills, stoves and everything. Absolutely. Do not be lazy, take a look on the Internet yourself.
What a premium class there!
Everything from one cauldron "hatches" and spreads all over the world. And everywhere it is ECONOMY-CLASS technology. In China, you can buy this "for 5 rubles per bucket." And only in Russia there were businessmen (the owners of the Electroflot company, now Technopark) who decided to present this as a kind of premium-class equipment, selling this household appliance 2-5 times more expensive than its real value. It is as if "Muscovites" suddenly began to be sold in England under the Jaguar brand, and at the price of the latter.
It's all about marketing and advertising.
There is such a company in Hong Kong "Housewares International Limited" (HWI), which "specializes in the marketing, development and production of household appliances for the home all over the world", as it is written on the only Russian site BORK (neither in Germany nor anywhere else is there BORK has no website). It is she who, for all sorts of international skiers, is engaged in the selection of cheap things in beautiful packaging, placing orders for production and creating supposedly elite brands. BORK type.
And then I just quote from this site (it's worth it): “BORK comes from the German word” abborken ”, which means“ to remove the bark, to remove the bark ”. This is precisely the idea of ​​the BORK business - to implement interesting ideas in the field of household appliances, to test and select only the best and the highest quality of them (emphasis mine), "clearing" the market from copies of questionable quality. " Like this.
Translated from a bird's-eye view, this means that we do not develop anything, we do not produce anything, but we simply take ready-made solutions, mold our brand and sell it to you as something significant and serious. And most importantly - expensive. So to speak, "abborken" we you, sorry. "We take off the bark", rip off.
It is a pity that epiphany comes when it presses itself. Laziness is our ignorance. Well, look for information, read it, and then go shopping. Be careful friends.

I also had a smell when I first baked it, then it left. It seems to me that this is normal, now we have bought a new Electrolux oven, as the instructions say, first warm it up empty for 45 minutes at 200 degrees and only then you can use it.

Basically, I'm happy with my HP Bork. The only thing, of course, when I found out that the analogue of Gorenie costs 2 times cheaper (moreover, Gorenie does not have it on the Russian official website, but in Ukrainian it does), bitterness arose from the fact that they had been bred like a sucker.

In any case, I fell in love with my HP Bork, she works constantly and regularly, the appearance pleases. If I didn’t know about analogs, I wouldn’t worry.

I read in Tyrnet that this name is a derivative of the abbreviated surname of that smart man who created and registered a company in Germany. I don't remember exactly his full name. But something like Borg ...... And the abbreviation looked like BORG He didn't like how it reads in reverse order, so he replaced the last letter and got BORK.

The owner of BORK Andrey Biryulin is a Muscovite.
In his interview, they read that he wraps inexpensive equipment in an expensive wrapper and sells it dearly.
That is, it is essentially a Russian brand, they do not produce the equipment themselves.

[envo]

Smell. This nasty smell when baking! Some kind of medical and technical. And the bread smells like that. And absolutely inedible.
I had the same thing with x. stove LG.
I came to the store, wrote a statement, they believed the smell when heated there and returned the money the next day.
envo , contact the consumer protection society - they always help. Good luck!

When choosing a bread machine, I stopped at Panasonic and Moulinex models, but when I bought my opinion changed. I am very pleased with HB Bork, for a whole month now I have been delighting my family with delicious bread. True, at first there was also an unpleasant smell, but it passed and now even the neighbors know when I bake bread, the smell is stupid. My little helper really likes it when I get bread from the HB, says: Mom, yum-yum. [img] [391 / img]

Envo,
You have not revealed anything new about Bork, and so everyone knows it. It is a pity that there was a marriage, but there is a marriage in any brand.

Model twins are found not only in bread makers, for your information, but also in cars of different price categories, hair dryers and even anti-wrinkle creams. But who needs an Audi, and who needs a Volkswagen or Renault. These are the everyday life of modern marketing.

And so, no one forces you to overpay. Use LG or whatever is cheaper for you. I have been using Bork for a long time, I have a micro-device, a Bork toaster and kettle, a bread machine and even a fan. I perfectly know the history of the brand and it does not bother me. The quality suits me completely, there was no smell, everything works out, the design is superb. And it is convenient for me to come to a company store, pick everything up in one style at once, get advice, come and deliver at home the thing I want. I overpay for this. I have the right.
It's just that my kitchen should be not only comfortable, but also beautiful. And Bork meets my needs. Well, I don't like white plastic in the kitchen and pseudo-metallic. And KhP Borka bakes very well.

[Yulia_S, Natina]

Yulia_S, Natina , this topic is for discussion malfunctions HP Bork. Discussion of the stove itself with us HERE.

envo Your information is really valuable. Thank you!

HP BORK BM500
Backlight bulb burned out, how to change, is there any experience?
To drag to Moscow is little joy.

[Thank you very much for the information!]

Thank you very much for the information!
When choosing a bread maker, we looked at different companies (including Bork), but I read in the net that this our craftsmen are disguised as Germans and we excluded her from the list. And then my husband read somewhere that they were like real Germans and in vain they were attacking.
Thanks for bringing this up - I think people should know the truth!

I never cease to amaze our people. Have you ever read information about Bork on their website?

If TEKHNOPARK made a Brand for the Russian market, then HOW could one initially think that it was a German mark ???

They thought with themselves, changed their minds. Then they got offended at everyone and created a theme ..

I always knew that the brand was Russian, but this did not bother me, because their design is always the best and I was always satisfied with the quality. Since the time of buying HP, I have had their coffee station and juicer, both from the professional series - I'm terribly happy with both.

And if you have a passion for everything GERMAN, then take a close look at where phillips, browns and other GERMAN brands are made

I never cease to amaze our people. Have you ever read information about Bork on their website?

If TEKHNOPARK made a Brand for the Russian market, then HOW could one initially think that it was a German mark ???

They thought with themselves, changed their minds. Then they got offended at everyone and created a theme ..

Actually, not every customer visits websites to read information about a manufacturer. And he is not obliged to do this. And SELLERS are obliged to provide the BUYER with honest information. In the first post, it was told that

Divorced ... Just divorced the seller in the M-video, Confidentially informing that she, they say, has personally been at home for 3 years already Panas, and everything would be fine, but ... But the plastic lining turned yellow, the outdated buttons, they say (!) that the lid breaks, but it cannot be found, which is required an additional shovel for rye bread, that there is only one form and, most importantly, it has a "plastic-metal" drive! This struck me. But next to him, they say, what a handsome man in metal, with sensors, a beautiful display, two shapes, a German mark, etc.And most importantly, if something goes wrong, you can easily change it, or return it within two weeks.
And I bought a BORK X500 (as I later found out, he's Gorenye 900AL, he's something else ...).
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Climbed into the network (only late), and there everything is crammed with warnings, such as "Caution - Bork". And I read about the pseudo-German origin, and about all the ordeals and torments of people like me. Well, for example, the same Gorenye costs about 5 thousand, and its twin under the BORK brand - almost 9. The secret of success, as they say on the Internet, is high commissions for selling managers throughout the country (from 1000 rubles per unit of sold), aggressive and thoughtful advertising and stylization for elite equipment.
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I am a stubborn person, especially if I am offended. And I was specifically offended. Not only did they sell shitty quality goods, under the guise and at the price of an airplane, and then also the sales assistant (who sits on commission from BORK) shamelessly lied in the eyes (when the next day I tried to return this "bread maker"), which did not promise the possibility of a smooth replacement, or return within 2 weeks. I'll make her name public yet. Necessarily, out of principle.
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It's all about marketing and advertising.
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It is a pity that epiphany comes when it presses itself. Laziness is our ignorance. Well, look for information, read it, and then go shopping. Be careful friends.

Well, as far as I understand, this is not in the company store "the seller shamelessly lied in the eyes", maybe it is necessary to write a complaint in the M-video?

I buy only in a branded store, no one has ever hidden the country of production (China) and no one has sold anything.

generous commissions - marketing, but who stops others from making commissions?

I'm not a Bork lawyer, but the complaints should be about quality, and not about my own ignorance of the hardware.

Oh oh oh!! I'm in a panic! My beloved assistant does not respond to buttons !!! (((She once became capricious, but then everything went away. And today I can't turn it on for half an hour. I plug it in, beeps, the display lights up, but the touch buttons do not respond. I really don't want to change! I have already adapted to her. And this is a gift from my parents for an anniversary ... She is already four months old. Maybe she is overheated? It's hot in the apartment. Where to run? What to do? Good people, tell me! So I want bread ...

[Original person]

I plug it into the socket, it beeps, the display lights up, but the touch buttons do not respond.

Original personand the buttons stopped responding after baking the bread? It's just that Bork has such a "fad", it overheats and does not respond to buttons. Try unplugging and plugging in 30 minutes or more. The program may be reset.

You can also call the service center 8-800-700-55-88. Not a fact of course, but we can say something clever.

[Original person]

Original person, and the buttons stopped responding after baking the bread? It's just that Bork has such a "fad", it overheats and does not respond to buttons. Try unplugging and plugging in 30 minutes or more. The program may be reset.

You can also call the service center 8-800-700-55-88. Not a fact of course, but we can say something clever.

I know about this "fad". I was just going to the stove ((For 4 hours I have been going to turn it on, turn it off ... And I called there, they told me the same thing that you did.)) I'll take it to the store, I have a certificate there for an exchange within a year, if something happens. This is the only comfort.

Oh, so this is super! Don't even get upset then!

The time is just a pity wasted. I can probably take another brand of HP. I don't want a touch pad anymore.

Maybe someone will use my experience ... I took my stove with non-responsive touch buttons back to M-Video, watched it, took it for repair. It was being renovated for almost a month. They called and said to pick up. Replaced the touch pad, at least that's what they wrote in the documents. I brought it home and, to celebrate, set the bread to bake. After baking, I was very surprised when I managed to unlock the control panel. Before the renovation it never worked.I was delighted. The next day, I was going to bake some bread again and ... the panel did not react again. I raked the stove back into my armful and back to the store. The guys looked at this beauty and said: "If after the repair the defect appears again, we change the technique. In general, the technique is good, but you just were out of luck." And I was already ready to eat store bread for another month) They offered a new model with such buttons as I wanted, but the price hurts too much, and I was afraid to take the touchscreen again. As a result, I took HP from another company. The first bread is being baked in it now. I really hope that I am right.

I want to stand up for Bork. For more than a year I have been using a bread maker and a kettle from this company. The kettle is excellent, at the beginning the buttons of the bread machine were a little "stuck", now this problem has disappeared. With which I agree that they have no instructions, without having read about the kolobok according to their recipes, baking good bread is problematic.

I bought hp a week ago and regretted it, the bread keeps falling and falling. I found out about the kolabok, followed him, it seemed like it should. But alas: girl_cray: the bread fell again. Help

Kind people! Can you please tell me whether it is worth attributing to a malfunction the sound - the knock of the folding-folding knife when kneading the dough? There are no complaints about baking bread, but here's the sound ....., when kneading the "French" knock of a knife for 25-30 minutes is not an easy test! Yes, and you have to guess the batch of bread when everyone wakes up .... It does not come out to a quiet one! Respond, who has what sounds when mixing?

YOUNG ANDREY BIRYULIN !!!! There are nevertheless clever people in our country, - he took an ordinary little drapchik, came up with a beautiful and stylish cut, and sewed a suit to the figure. Oh, how the little man sits! Anything - it's expensive to see and the drapchik immediately began to play, became an expensive costume.
And the other artisan didn’t think anything too smart, he made a standard hoodie, and therefore sold it cheaper. Remember how in the unforgettable film The Diamond Hand - And the same but only with mother-of-pearl buttons? And they are more expensive.

well done that he wrapped cheap equipment in an expensive wrapper and sells it as a branded one ??? he would be fine if he produced good quality equipment and sold it for a reasonable price, and did not, excuse me, sell cheap bullshit at the prices of branded models. for comparison bork x500 8880r. and panasonic SD-ZB2502 8990 rubles. what is called feel the difference. I myself got on an advertisement for a seller in a technopark, although my wife and I followed the Panas, but thank God, after 4 days of use, I took it back and changed it to a normal bread machine. and there is no need to rub the people here that bork is a brand, I apologize, but for serious money.

Good luck

We tried to take it but they told us they wouldn't take it: pardon: How did you give it if it's not difficult to write

We tried to take it but they told us they wouldn't take it: pardon: How did you give it if it's not difficult to write

Believe it or not, there were no problems with the exchange at all, just started writing a complaint, a girl came up and asked what the problem was, I explained everything to her in 10 minutes, we already made out the exchange. The only condition was that the bread baker for which he exchanged should not be cheaper. If the store in your case rests on contact with the consumer protection society, write a claim and I think the store will not bring the case to court. Do not give up and you will succeed.

I contacted the Consumer Protection Society, and they tell me that it cannot be changed, only if it does not bake then come

I contacted the Consumer Protection Society, and they tell me that it cannot be changed, only if it does not bake, then come

apparently the consumer society does not want to work for you, but in any case, they should help you with filing a claim.
write a claim
Rationale: it is completely serviceable but does not correspond to the declared characteristics, appoint an independent examination, let them bake bread according to the attached recipe (especially rye), press on the recipes from the attached recipe book, since it is according to their recipe that everything should work out first, I thinkthe matter will not go further than the claim.

I have a problem: how to turn off the oven during the process? for example, after 1 batch?

upd. I figured it out myself. you need to unlock: cycle, and then the color of the crust and press stop

HP BORK BM500
Backlight bulb burned out, how to change, is there any experience?
To drag to Moscow is little joy.

So no one answered, which is a pity

We bought X800 in M. Video for 12900 rubles. ... The oven is very advanced by design, it can be programmed for any dough. It bakes perfectly. The design is the same for 5 points. As they say peki and rejoice, get fat on your health! But ..... I worked for 2 weeks, gritted like an unlubricated cart. Let's go change, naturally managers - buy additional service for 1500r. ! This is with a 3-year manufacturer's warranty! Okay, they handed over for quality control - for a month they didn’t hear a word until they turned to ROSPOTREBNADZOR ..... The diagnosis was a manufacturing defect in the bearing. Replaced with a new stove! Hurrah! we bake for 3 days and the same fault. They returned it to M. Video - they took the money ... It's a pity that the stove is excellent, if the Chinese had installed our bearings since Soviet times - I think there was an eternal stove, well, this is my subjective opinion. Allow me more advice - don't agree to any quality checks, they have a loophole to waste time! Immediately write a claim for a refund or exchange. They are given 10 days for everything according to the law. And demand your presence at the check or examination (what they want to do) No additional. service! They will do everything anyway! Read the law on consumer protection - save your nerves and time! All the best and excellent health!
P.S After these events, I looked on the Internet - USA and Europe clones of Bork X800 price up to $ 150 ...
Steep Russia is a garbage dump for the Bodne Kingdom!

Good day!
We strongly recommend that you still contact the nearest service center, the address of which you can find on our website 🔗./support/.
Yours faithfully,
Customer service
BORK

What kind of service center? Where to buy and return! This is already a problem seller-manufacturer-service center! Service center - this is when the warranty is over! And then I think everything can be solved much cheaper than in these "centers" As a rule, there are only twins!

I have been using HP BORK BM500 for about 3 years. I am very pleased with the stove. If not for one thing: today the second key that holds the axis of the blade (such a small round piece of iron) has broken. On a large baking dish, this dowel broke 6 months ago, began to actively use the second form and the same trouble. Maybe someone came across such a situation. Please tell me where you can buy these dowels separately, maybe you can pick it up in some auto shop. Thanks in advance to everyone who responded.

I have been using HP BORK BM500 for about 3 years. I am very pleased with the stove. If not for one thing: today the second key that holds the axis of the blade (such a small round piece of iron) has broken. On a large baking dish, this dowel broke 6 months ago, began to actively use the second form and the same trouble. Maybe someone came across such a situation. Please tell me where you can buy these dowels separately, maybe you can pick it up in some auto shop. Thanks in advance to everyone who responded.

The key breaks, as a rule, when the oil seal fails and the bearing is depleted, just a replacement will do little, you need to change the oil seal, lubricate the bearing. Method here https://mcooker-enm.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=36855.0 Or, alternatively, replacing the bucket.

For the second day I torture the hp BORK X-800, I came to the conclusion that the error pops up when I put the color of the crust dark, and as I suppose, due to overheating of the hp, since everything is ok on the middle color of the crust, hence the question to the owner of this model, how often And in general, was there a disabling of hp when setting a dark crust and how it looked. For some reason, this is different for me, yesterday there was an E2 error, the menu was just reset to zero.The menu became as if I turned on HP, after I set it immediately, baking after 15-20 minutes, again the error E2 was sent. I use the current main accelerated program.
We ask you not to be too lazy to unsubscribe, until the 2-week period is not long left, and there it will be more difficult to change or return money.
P.S. I don't go to the store right away for three reasons.
1. The store is a bit thin.
2. I would like this particular HP model (I liked both the design and functionality)
3. The change will most likely not work, since the store seemed to be the last one, but other stores do not have such a model. (when I took it all I called)

Tell me please!!!!! The stove was presented recently and has never been able to bake with a golden brown crust ... when choosing a crust color from light to dark, the result is one - pale. I close the dispenser, covered the window with foil ... Is this a malfunction or am I doing something wrong?

Please tell me who faced this! two and a half weeks ago I bought bork x500 for my husband for his birthday. we were very happy, because so many times we tried bread from bread makers, friends always had a lush, airy and tasty. they began to bake strictly according to the recipe, well, the smell of burnt plastic is yes, by the way, it still does not go away. the bread did not rise, that is, it rose slightly more than to the middle of the mold. kind of baked, but the structure is dense, like a brick in general. washed for five days, trying this and that, it does not work. We went to the store, and they told us there, they say, everything is fine with the stove, it bakes, but what she bakes is not their problem. we got angry and left. decided to write a claim. week hands did not reach her. but today I'm looking closely at hp, and its side panel is almost half a centimeter away from the case. I looked further and on both sides there were scratches on the edges of the metal, as if something was prying a metal plate to open it. my husband looked, says that she is most likely repairing already. and we were sold as new. we sit and think how we could write a claim so that they would not hang it on us. And after all, the bread most likely does not rise because the tightness is broken due to the removal of the lid. who faced such problems? how can you solve? can it be returned for no money? I don’t want more bork, it’s better to buy more easily than to toil with it and guess what will happen at the exit

HP BORK BM500
Backlight bulb burned out, how to change, is there any experience?

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I have been using HP BORK BM500 for about 3 years. I am very pleased with the stove. If not for one thing: today the second key that holds the axis of the blade (such a small round piece of iron) has broken. On a large baking dish, this dowel broke 6 months ago, began to actively use the second form and the same trouble. Maybe someone came across such a situation. Please tell me where you can buy these dowels separately, maybe you can pick it up in some auto shop. Thanks in advance to everyone who responded.

Something I have just because of this dowel knock went when kneading the dough !!!! Me, what? the same expects ?? I have been using the stove for no more than a month !!

Tell me please!!!!!! It began to knock when mixing! I revised everything and realized that it was because of this dowel on which they put the scapula. She began to stagger !!!! The stove was bought no more than a month ago! I'm afraid it will fly at all !!! Answer who knows, pliz !!!

[dili1979]

dili1979 Why duplicate a post by topic? I answered you in another topic, but I will repeat myself here. There is a guarantee, contact the store or service, you yourself will not do anything.

[dili1979]

dili1979 Why duplicate a post by topic? I answered you in another topic, but I will repeat myself here. There is a guarantee, contact the store or service, you yourself will not do anything.

Thanks for the answer! And I repeated it because I found Temko about any breakdowns later.

I exchanged the stove today! We bought it in "M-video", it's good that we issued an additional guarantee for 2 years from the store (it cost us something about 800-900 rubles. The seller persuaded us to take the guarantee).We exchanged it for another new one without any problems (the "old" one began to knock during the batch, it was exploited for only a month). I called those. Bork support suggested that there was a problem with the drive, they said to take them to the center There would be no extra. guarantees, would be sent to the service ...
I really hope that everything will be fine !!!!!

I bought HP Bork 500 in April this year, exactly 2 months later I noticed that the inner coating is being erased, simultaneously on both sides on the ribs, with each use more and more. She did not wait for a critical condition, she called the company's hotline, tel. took from their website. I was advised to take the bucket to the service center. Which I did. True, the SC did not really want to accept it, because for them it turned out to be not a problem at all. For some reason, we very carefully examined the external state of the bucket, stubbornly ignoring the internal defect. But I was not going to give up just like that. As a result, the bucket was presented to the SC. The very next day they called back and said that the BORK company decided to exchange my marriage. After 10 days I received a brand new bucket, now I bake bread again, put the dough. I don’t know if I’ll be lucky this time or not? I would like, of course, to believe in the best.

Good day. HP BORK X500, for 1.5 years already. The whole year baked excellently, there were no complaints. And then she stopped baking bread! Time after time, both cupcake and regular. The bread does not rise, a flat curved brick comes out with a moist crumb inside. I bake 10 times, 10 times the same result. what is it? problem with ten? I tried all the options, changed all the ingredients ... the stone flower does not come out ... but before everything worked out ... the lid is intact, without cracks, it sits tightly enough. I suppose I stopped baking after moving from the dacha, maybe something was damaged during transportation?

I urgently test my HP. She covered the lid and the viewing window with a towel, and the cupcake rose. But the shape is uneven, beveled to the side. the smell is so-so, but I admit that because of the baking soda (instead of baking powder, it's over) It was baked. put on "baking" for 70 minutes. It's already better, I will test further