Dryer Belomo 8360

My friend has some kind of inexpensive dryer, so she complains that she has to constantly change the trays up and down, because it dries unevenly.
And they compared dried apples from her dryer and from Isidri. In Isidri the apples remained light, and in her dryer they darkened significantly during drying. I dried different varieties of apples, with all the same situation, that is, the point is not that the variety is unsuccessful. And the taste of her dried apples seems to me worse than from Isidri

She looks after something like my Isidri, but on a budget. I would like to advise her to Belomo 8360 version 01.
A question to the owners of such a model. How evenly does it dry, shouldn't the trays be swapped for better drying? And does the fruit darken when dried?

Eney, Igor, you are absolutely right. Developing and adjusting a project costs money. Designers and thermal power engineers know that for calculations it is necessary to know the temperature of the room, the air exchange in the room, the change in the average daily temperature of the room, the manufacturing technology of the trays and possible deviations from the technology and materials used, as well as other parameters of the external environment in which the appliance operates. Do the instructions indicate the specific room temperature required for the operation of the device? So wrap up. This is also done with cubes of moonshine stills to store energy in the form of heat. That's what I really don't understand - why on Isidri the number of trays can be almost doubled from Belomo with the same power? Is the fan configuration different? Is the air flow rate different? The amount of energy in the form of calories is the same. The focus, it seems to me, is the drying time. But somehow they are silent about this.

wrap up. This is also done with cubes of moonshine stills to store energy in the form of heat.

Oh, what's going on ... since when did moonshine stills from plastic make steel

No, they are made of stainless steel, who is not in the subject. But the essence is the same - the conservation of heat energy.

Is the air flow rate different?

Exactly.

Due to which of my listed indicators? Take into account that the engine power is one - 0.5 kW, the drying temperature for Isidri is even lower than that of Belomo, 60 versus 70. By all indicators Belomo is not worse, but at temperature conditions it is better. Drying of meat and fish is carried out, as far as I know, at 70 - 75 degrees. FROM.
The better the thermal insulation between the room and the drying chamber, the less often the heating elements are turned on, which means direct energy savings. And if you are worried that the plates will lead, this should not be. If they are deformed, it means they do not correspond to the passport indicators, i.e. 70 degrees. FROM.

[mihaekb]

mihaekb, you've lumped together the heating element's work (heating) and the fan's work (air flow). In Isidri, the fan provides a stronger airflow and, as a result, can blow more trays. And Belomo - warms more and blows less, compared to Isidri.

Compare: any lighting lamp spends part of its energy on visible light itself (luminous flux, measured in lumens), and part on heat release (measured in joules, power is measured in watts; 1 J = 1 W s). For example, a 15 W incandescent lamp (luminous flux approx. 90-100 lm), a compact fluorescent lamp with the same power of 15 W (luminous flux approx. 800-875 lm) can be screwed into a luminaire with a 15 W lamp power limit. , but giving a brighter luminous flux equivalent to the luminous flux of 70 W incandescent lamp or LED lamp of the same power of 15 W (luminous flux approx. 1350-1800 lm) with an even more powerful luminous flux equivalent to 150 W incandescent lamp.
Accordingly, if in the first version there is only enough light as an attendant, then the last option can even be used as supplementary lighting for plants. At the same power.
Table of the ratio of lamp power with the same luminous flux of a brand

And where did you get the idea that izidri has a more powerful air flow? How does it feel? The power of the air pumped by the fan through the heating element per unit of time is not indicated in the passport of Isidri, as in the passport of Belomo. The drying time spread is approximately the same. Before approving something, you must refer to the documentation or an experimental comparison. The configuration of the trays and ducts on the trays of the dryers is practically the same. At Belomo, by the way, the height of the sides of the plate is 17mm higher. Recommended cutting of products (eg fruit) in dryers is the same 3-5 mm. I will not believe that the replica is 2 times inferior to Isidri. With an increase in the power of Isidri and Walter to 1 kW, yes, it is possible, but at the expense of an increase in energy consumption.

[mihaekb]

mihaekb, I have - Ezidri FD1000 with 15 trays, because this volume is enough for us. I dry meat and fish in Travola KYS-333D... Have Admin — Ezidri snackmaker with 15 trays ...
Isidri does a great job with so many trays. Belomo - no. Based on actual user experience.
About power: the greater the maximum heating - the higher the power of the heating element. Considering that the power consumed by the device is the sum of the capacities of the heating element and the fan, it is obvious that with an equal total power, an increase in the power of one component will require a decrease in the power of the other component. This is elementary arithmetic.
If A+B=C, then at x>0, (A+x)+(B–x)=C, otherwise, (A+x)+B=C+x

Marina, you are doing well with arithmetic. But I wrote about Isidri SNACKMAKER FD500. In the passport, all the number of trays in the base is -5. With Isidri, you can grow up to 15 according to your passport. Well, maybe Isidri can cope with drying herbs. But that's not what I mean. I'm talking about the power of the flow through the ten. The fact that people during operation say that everything is fine, I understand that. It reminded me of a well-known anecdote - you also say. And also from Zhvanetsky - ".... let's argue about the taste of oysters with those who ate them." It is necessary to put 2 dryers nearby and, with other different conditions, start them up. Or measure the flow rate with the device 1 hour after the start of work at the maximum temperature. But better at work and productivity. Otherwise, you get not the law of conservation of energy, but the presence of magic. From somewhere additional power is taken for another 7 trays compared to Belomo (Belomo-maximum 8, Izidri maximum-15).
Marina, but you still need to insulate the trays outside. Because the set temperature is given on a temperature sensor, which is located in the housing under the first plate. And if the first plate can experience a given temperature, then the rest of the plates must withstand this temperature. And then at a temperature on the sensor -60 gr. C, then on the last 5 tray -42 gr. on C. If the temperature in Belomo is set to 70, and in Isidri -60, then the difference will be 14%, a small part of which, during distribution, can go to the fan power, theoretically. But I think that there is no redistribution there, otherwise everything would have become more complicated and increased in price. There is nothing complicated there. The preset parameters go to the ten, which is regulated by a rheostat, and the preset power parameters to the fan. This is shown in the Belomo electrical circuit diagram.

[mihaekb]

mihaekb, I'm fine with physics. I repeat the obvious: Admin dries exactly in SNACKMAKER FD500 (there is no other SNACKMAKER capacity), including 15 trays. I use senior model (permissible load 30 trays). Of course, we don't always load the dryer to the maximum. It happens that raw materials are available only for the basic set. Accordingly, the owner of the dryer is able to assess both the quality of the finished product and the time spent on obtaining it at different loads on the dryer. Upon operation. Actual measurements at Isidri confirmed a real insignificant difference in thermometer readings, both on the lower and upper trays (± 1 ° С).
The power of the air flow through the heating element depends on the power of the installed fan. The more powerful the fan, the more powerful the flow. For the rated power of the device, the presence and location of the rheostat in the electrical circuit of this device does not matter.

you still need to insulate the trays outside

No. Ensure good air exchange around the dryer.
The elementary physics of the drying process: it dries faster in the breeze and the higher the temperature, the faster the water evaporates.
I can’t say anything about the taste of oysters, because I don’t eat that.
For reference:
Drying, with timing and measurements, of various products in Isidri -

[Ezidri master]

The focus, it seems to me, is the drying time. But somehow they are silent about this.

go to youtube on Ezidri master

See how long certain products are dried. Not a little, by no means a quick process. Which is natural.
The wetter the original product, the thicker the slices, the more trays, the longer the drying time.
And by the way, Izedri500 doesn't have a double wall, that is, it doesn't have that notorious "shirt".
The 1000 is wider than 500, and the walls were thickened. True, I think that with the construction of the walls as in the 500 and 1000, it would dry just as well.

[mihaekb]

mihaekb, Igor, What kind of dryer do you have?
By the way, when I got interested in dryers, I shoveled the Internet and found that Isidri is also a replica from some famous American dryer.

Isidri is also a replica from some famous American dryer

not a replica, but an affiliate program about the production of this particular dryer.

The first electric fruit dryer under the Ezidri brand came off the assembly line in 1981. Its development and release is the result of a fruitful collaboration between the American and New Zealand company Hydraflow Industries Limited (HIL). In 1995, the New Zealand company parted ways with its American partners and became the full owner of developments and patents in the field of air supply and design.

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[mihaekb]

mihaekb,

The 30% difference between Ezidri Snackmaker FD500 and Ezidri Ultra FD1000 in energy consumption and power is due, only, to the same 30% difference in the usable area of ​​trays and pallets. The time required to dry the same raw material of the same quality is the same for the same number of trays and pallets.

Snackmaker FD500 is approximately two times quieter than Ultra FD1000

[Irina]

not a replica, but an affiliate program about the production of this particular dryer.

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IrinaDuc I will not argue with the delicate Ezidri marketers.
I did not save the links, since the texts are in English and are of little interest to us ...

Ladies, I have BelOMO 8361. There, according to the passport, there are already 10 trays. It is possible and 15 on Belomo 8360 pomtavit. For example, about the flow rate at Belomo from 7 to 8 minutes

However, the drying time increases. There are no double walls anywhere on the trays. The location of the rheostat does not matter. It just exists. It is necessary to compare Isidri and Belomo under equal conditions. Either specify the technical characteristics of heating elements and fans. The rest is all the same, except for the height of the sides.

[Snackmaker FD500 Tray]

The rest is all the same

No.
The same base construct is different, as well as the geometry of the trays. There is nothing to say about the components.
Spilled and spilled on the Isidri base will leak and wake up on the table under the dryer, bypassing the base.


Compare:

The BelOMO electric dryer has baking trays with a diameter of 34.3 cm and a height of 3.2 cm.

and

Snackmaker FD500 Tray
The diameter of the tray is 34 cm.
Useful height 26 mm.
Plastic - food grade ABS.
The capacity of the tray in one layer is about ~ 2.5 kg of peeled cut food.

Ultra FD1000 Tray
The diameter of the tray is 39 cm.
Useful height 30 mm.
Plastic - food grade ABS.
The capacity of the tray in one layer is about ~ 3 kg of peeled cut food.

And most importantly, a very important difference: the duration of continuous operation recommended by the manufacturer!
Compare:
Electric dryer "BelOMO", a fragment of the instruction on page 4

and
Official instructions for Ezidri dryers, fragment, p. 4

That is, Isidri works in the mode set on the dryer for as long as needed, without forced shutdown-rest, day and night.

Maybe they wrote this in the first operating instructions. Then they did not. This limit was set for the best drying of food, not for safety reasons. This is confirmed in this thread.Someone called Belomo, and they said that there are no time limits for drying. This is not mentioned in the BelOMO 8361 instruction. The configuration of the trays does not differ significantly. But that doesn't matter, as warm air blows from the side of the plate. In Isidri 1000, there is an additional air cushion between the food and the wall of the tray, which prevents the temperature inside the tray from lowering. A kind of protection from outside temperature. Which affects the savings, since the heating element is turned on less often.

Maybe it was written in the first operating instructions. Then they did not.

Have you changed the materials and constructions or left them the same?

This limit was set for the best drying of food, not for safety reasons.

Fantasy, she's so ...

The configuration of the trays does not differ significantly.

When the geometry of the trough space changes, the physical characteristics of the air flow change. This is clearly shown by the comparison of the results of the work of Ezidri Snackmaker FD500 and Ezidri Ultra FD1000.

it does not matter

Delusion. Calculator to help.
You are trying to compare the purely homely household Belomo with the more intensively exploited Isidri.
The circle of consumers of Belomo electric dryers, according to the manufacturer

Belomo does not mention any other groups of consumers for its household dryers.

On this, I consider the topic of comparing Isidri dryers and models from other manufacturers that look like them to be fully disclosed.

When I bought a Belomo 8360 dryer. 01. the seller said that when drying, all five pallets must always be loaded. What happens if fewer pallets are loaded and how does this affect the dryer?

What happens if fewer pallets are loaded and how does this affect the dryer?

the air flow will most likely be disrupted, i.e. it will be weakened by the decrease in altitude.
The air in the chute-like trays moves along a more complex trajectory than in dryers with simple trays, and this trajectory must be provided.
At least the basic quantity - 5 pieces of trays - must be supplied.
I see no other explanation.

No need to load all 5 pallets. If only 2 are loaded, then set them up, that is, the last, and empty 3 set down.

[Lyaila]

What happens if you load fewer pallets

No need to load all 5 pallets

I assumed that Lyaila asks - if put on a dryer exactly loaded trays, but less than 5.